Why are there women here?

[HUBBY]

Kind of ruins the "Secrets' part of it, doesn't it?
50% of the "advice" that I have read is just the
same old nagging.

[Inexperienced guy]

Yes it does!

Don't mind the female opinion but where are the guys responses?

[diiknow]

And by sharing them here with others, that takes away from the secrets bit as well.

Anywho, if the women sound to you like they are nagging could it be there is a bit of truth to what they say and you are feeling guilty? If it wasn't for women, there wouldn't BE any happily married men now would there? Let them post, take their advice or not, your choice.

[elizacol]

HUBBY,

Seems strange that you would not like women here...seeing as how you are here for one reason and one reason alone: to actively seek out women for your little online 3-ways.

Can't have it both ways (except for stupid women who allow it).

You either put up w/the so called 'nagging' and leave open the possibility that you might meet someone stupid enough to take you up on your offer of an online 3-way....or you leave the forum because of the so called, 'nagging', and find somewhere else to recruit women.

Btw, the title of this forum has nothing to do with this forum being 'secret'. It is an internet forum, open to any and all who happen upon it. IF the host wanted to make it 'secret', he would.

I imagine he likes the posting, men or women, as he uses this forum for ideas, etc. for his books.

That being said, this forum likely would have very few posts if it weren't for the women. Men aren't real communicative by and large.

[HUBBY]

...there you have it.

[HUBBY]

I originally came from Oklahoma.
A place that has 25% illiteracy, a religious oppression that
leads to one of the nations highest ratings in suicide, teen
pregnancies, heart disease etc.
Oklahoma is second only to Texas in executing women.
They are near the bottom of the list for anything good.
Near the top for anything bad.
But, some people in this forum make them look like a
progressive society.
I always said that, in Oklahoma, you don't have to be that
strange, just wear a big funny hat and see what happens to you.
You should see it.

[HUBBY]

In actuality, I don't know of a guy that I would feel comfortable introducing a woman to. Sad, but, true.
But, in saying that, I don't know of a guy that is stupid enough, ignorant enough or has the audacity to suggest to a woman that she should change her menstrual cycle because it bothers him.
And yet, these older women, are telling us that we should go to therapy
to "retrain our penises".
Women, who all they've ever had to do is spread their legs and they would get bopped. (That came from a 85 year old woman, not me)
Now, they have to put out some effort, and they can't stand it, ain't
gonna do it and that's that--case closed.
Older women get dumped, not because of their bod, but because of their attitude.
I am a member of this forum, too.
If you don't like what I'm saying, don't read it.
Where have I heard that?

[doncalypso]

I definitely don't mind reading women's perspectives on the various issues addressed in the threads of this forum. What bothers me is when women try to put us to shame for desiring more sex in our relationships.


If a woman thinks it is normal to make her husband go for months without any sex and expects him to remain faithful while she has no intention of satisfying his sexual needs then she has no business getting married and she has no business whatsoever being in this forum.

[HUBBY]

And now for a man's conversation.
The tryst the woman, obviously, refers to is chatting online for stimulous.
No, I'm not recruiting.
I have run into so many men that have been in agony for years over lack of sex in their marriage. They don't want to have an affair but, we have to have sex or shoot me now!
In a woman's mind, looking at porn or chatting is a form of cheating.
We know that it isn't even close.
Most older men don't want to cross that line.
Women can never understand that, in men, love and sex are two completely different entities. Yes, we love having sex and making love to the woman we love.
But, when, after years together, it becomes like cooking dinner, the ole
penis reacts about like it would when we are cooking dinner.

[elizacol]

Gee, my post must have hit a nerve. What is this...the 4th
response to a single post of mine?

As far as whether you are recruiting...if you aren't, then why the private message to me via this forum asking me if I'd be interested in engaging in your little immoral escapades with your wife/and or others?

I don't think that was purpose Scott had in mind when he began this forum.

I wonder how many other women here you privately e-mailed...

Things that make you go hmmmm.....

[HUBBY]

You keep speaking for this man who started the forum.
Are you his overbaring wife or what?
I imagine that the man knows exactly what I'm
talking about or have you beaten his penis to death already?
The nerve you hit on me is the nausea button.
Nobody was talking to you. Get it?
Go stir your brew.

[Scott Haltzman]

Hubby,

Thanks, all, for participating. Even though I don't always like what I read, I'm happy to give people a place to share thoughts (not insults).I have tried to maintain as open a forum as possible. Ideally, civility would rule, but it's not absolutely required in order to join in. Because this is a forum, everyone is talking to everyone...

Elizacol is not my wife. Actually, everyone on this site except I maintain anonymity. So she MIGHT be my wife pretending to be someone else, but I seriously doubt it.

I recognize your appreciation of three-ways, Hubby, but would ask you not to try to seek such relationships here.

O.K?

S.H.

[HUBBY]

It's not about any of that at all and if you are really a man and not someone portraying one, you would have seen that a long time ago.
I don't know who you are and don't care. There are some forums out there that are for men and don't have bitter old hags waiting to do some ball busting whenever what they see as prey. does in fact, open up.
I'm gone. you have your twisted little sand box back.

[doncalypso]

It's not about any of that at all and if you are really a man and not someone portraying one, you would have seen that a long time ago.
I don't know who you are and don't care. There are some forums out there that are for men and don't have bitter old hags waiting to do some ball busting whenever what they see as prey. does in fact, open up.
I'm gone. you have your twisted little sand box back.

Whoa... this site is the last place where I would've expected to see World War III start up.

I hope the peace has not been permanently disrupted... Regardless of how things settle after this incident I still maintain that women are welcome on this site to share their two cents---so long as they don't blast men and try to put us to shame for desiring more sexual intimacy with our wives (or girlfriends, for those of us who are not yet married).

[heartbroken247]

I'm not here to spy.
I just wanted to get a mans perspective to my problem. Being that tis is for men, I thought you guys could help me.
I wasn't going to sign on, but I saw other women on and that's why I'm here.